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Fantastic work - it runs without a hitch! You're missing the link to, however.


Fixed the link, ta.

It looks like this other one's made slashdot. An opportunity to point out a better alternative?

I'll try, but I don't tend to have much success at posting to such sites!

Just what I was looking for

I was wondering if there was a native client for Zork on the Kindle, great to see someone working on it!

Here's a patch to add some whitespace around the game text:

I'm thinking of adding word wrapping next. I see that the last couple of pixels of the last character on a line are sometimes clipped too.

Re: Just what I was looking for

Cool! thanks, just applied.

Please go ahead with word wrapping; means I can get on with the styled/coloured text support...

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Without Jail Breaking

Does anyone know if someone is working on a solution so we don't have to jailbreak our Kindle?

Re: Without Jail Breaking

Well, the obvious one would be for Amazon to have deigned to reply to my request for a KDK beta account at . Then (I assume) I'd just be able to publish it on Amazon's kindle store.

However, I never heard anything back from them and I didn't want to wait.

How'd you find out about the KDK APIs? Is there any documentation out there that I can get access to? (I've also applied for the kindle dev program, never heard back)

See for useful links (also later posts detail my progress). I simply pulled the Kindlet/KDK jars off my Kindle's filing system.

Amazon left the KDK API docs publically accessible. A quick google search found people linking to them; there's a link to them in that post.

you just made me lose my recently purchased kindle to my girlfriend, who was obsessed with zork.

i hate you.

(thanks) ;)

Re: thanks a bunch...

Heh; wait till I get nethack working on it :)


Thanks so much, this makes my Kindle complete :-)

Great job! The kindle is one of the best platforms for IF *ever*. Lightweight, great display for it, so-so keyboard, great battery.
I've tried some games with success, but I ran into a problem that if I install every game that comes with Masterpieces of Infocom, I cannot scroll down to see all games. Maybe a split-column would work...

Re: Too much games

Glad you agree!

Yeah, I need to implement multi-paging in the file selector views, its on my todo list.

Do just what the guide says

I tried to do everything at once, so I just copied all the files over at once. I also included the uninstall files.

Not sure where my mistake was, but it worked when I did exactly what the guide says. RTFM ;-)

BTW. It would be great if you could put the source code up on sourceforge or a similar place.

Re: Do just what the guide says

Heh :)

The source is already up, easy to miss the link in the original post:


Is there help included? For example, a question mark would list the commands the interpreter understands.

I don't know if that is actually possible; its entirely up to the interpreter running in the Zcode VM what is supports.

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You have to type RESTORE Dude...

Awesome! Better than reading books

just wish that i could adjust the font size. and also support for scott adams games would be cool, can i buy you a beer ?

Re: Awesome! Better than reading books

Hmmm yeah, font size should be doable when I'm next in the mood for working on kif.

Scott Adams games do seem to be just infocom games; if you dig about in the source of the HTML (e.g. is ADVLAND.Z5) , you can find the filenames of them ... or are you seeing a specific issue?

As for beer, that'd be great! Transferring it over the internet might be tricky though :)

Additional Games

Thanks for doing this! Great to see this for the Kindle.

Can you walk me through adding a game from the IF archive? I tried downloading a file with a .z5 extension and putting it in the documents folder on my Kindle. I couldn't get that game to be recognized.

The two games in your download worked fine. I noticed your file was a .azw2 extension. Not sure what the difference is or if that matters.

Re: Additional Games

Ah, you need to put it in a specific folder on the kindle.

If you plug it into a PC and access the kindle's "drive", you put the z5 games in <kindle>/developer/kif/work/

If you've unzipped with the full directory structure, it should have created those directories for you.

Edited at 2011-02-09 10:01 am (UTC)

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3.1 FW Problem

KIF is great. I have been enjoying it on 3.0.2 FW.

I upgraded to 3.1 due to the new jailbreak releasing and installed the new jailbreak. Now, when I try to launch KIF, a message box comes up instead saying, "The permissions to open the requested title have an invalid date. Please contact customer service."

I tried reinstalling the devkeys, but I get the same result. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to fix it or help you in the debugging process. I'll be able to check back in a day or two.

Re: 3.1 FW Problem

Weird, I've not seen that myself on either of the two kindles here, although there's been one other report.

Did you install it over the air, or by downloading from amazon and doing a manual installation?

I'll try and have a dig about to find where that error is coming from.

If you have ssh setup, can you check the date on your kindle is correct? (type "date" into the kindle's shell prompt).


When I tried opening Kif on my Kindle, it gave me an error saying something like, the permissions requested have an incorrect date? I am on 3.1 3g.

Weird, I've not seen that on either of the kindles I've upgraded. You're using the latest kif version I assume? Not that that should affect anything.

Just to check, what's the number after the "3.1" on the settings screen? Both the 3g UK ones here have 5588700031

If you have ssh setup, can you try sshing in and checking the date on the kindle is roughly correct? (just type "date" into the shell prompt)

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Same Issue


I've got the same problem. Kif was working - I had a bit of a play around this morning. This afternoon my Kindle froze (doing something different) and I had to reset it. Since then, nothing.

I'd re-install, but I'm not quite sure where to start with uninstalling the software. Any tips?

Hi, the devkeys should come with an uninstaller binary.

As for kif itself, its just a few files installed on the usb stick; its not really any more installed that that.

Same Issue

PS - Hi, same poster. Just want to say this is an awesome idea, and the Kindle is much more suited to these games than the Android phone, and I look forward to being able to play them on the move.

Is there a site I can hit up to put my vote in for them giving you the KDK - you did point out that there aren't any copyright issues, yeah? There are thousands of awesome free games.

I did a search on z-code games with 4 or 5 stars just for a start so I could (re) download some favs and check out some new hits.

My personal recommendation would be Dreamhold for those just starting out / getting back into these as it also works as a tutorial, as well as a great game (the tutorial mode can turned off for more experienced players, or once you get the hang of things):

So many downloads, so little time. If only I could get these working on my kindle again *hint hammer*

PS - in case I didn't mention I'm using a Kindle 3 with wifi (graphite) running 3.1 and the number: 558700031

I used the latest version (0.6) of jailbreak which may have made a difference? Should I scale back?

I've tried 0.6 myself and it seems to work. I'd really appreciate if someone could try 1 (clearing the keystore dir) from

I can't replicate this problem myself unfortunately, so I haven't been able to make much more progress :(

Problem Solved!

I worked out what happened - thanks to this line in a troubleshooting guide:
"Reset the device if no error messages appear but the Kindle constantly freezes. This deletes everything on the device and restores it to its original factory setting"

It was for a Kindle 2, and didn't delete all my files, but it must have restored the pre-rooting settings.

I am about to start playing 'The Meteor, the Stone, and a Long Glass of Sherbet' - wish me luck.

PS - it seems z8 files don't play? The screen was blank when I tried to open Dreamhold (ps - if it never does that's fine, just thought you might want to know).


Re: Problem Solved!

Ah cool!

z8 likely won't, I don't think the interpreter supports those unfortunately.

A useful hack for greedy gamers!


I am a greedy gamer who complained about only being able to fit 20 games in KIF (well, they open, but it's a bit of a potluck past 20). There is a way to download files other than the Amazon's allowed ones here:

If you go to page three you will see what you need to add to the freedownload.conf file to get z3-z8 to download (don't bother adding ogg or z8 though (z8 don't play on KIF).

It works a charm - I just downloaded 9:05 from the if archive, straight to my kindle, opened up KIF and got started.

Re: A useful hack for greedy gamers!

oh, that's a cool idea for downloading other extensions!

I'll have to fix that listview problem; there's no actual limit on the number of games, just that I've been lazy in the GUI :)

ok that settles it...

My next purchase is an amazon kindle. Thanks for building this!

Doesn't detect new games

I added a few .z3 and .z5 to the developer\kif\work folder, but it doen't detect them on the kindle. Am I doing something wrong?

Re: Doesn't detect new games

Hi, did you manage to sort it? (been busy redecorating for the last few weeks, only just catching up...)

Thanks for this excellent work!

I did a search for "interactive fiction on Kindle" and found your page. I rooted my Kindle just to use this app. I loaded some of my old Infocom .DAT files and I can't wait to dig into that zorky goodness!

Are you still actively working on this project?

Thanks again and cheers!

Re: Thanks for this excellent work!

glad you like it. I'm not actively working on it at the moment.

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Test Kindle


Thanks for putting this together. I think I followed all directions correctly for my Kindle 3.1 wifi. However, when I click the "kif" file I get this error message:

"The device is not registered as a Test Kindle to run this title. Please ask the developer to add this device to the list of registered Test Kindles. "

Any ideas?


I think that means my devkeys haven't installed correctly, but I couldn't say why...


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